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The Scrap Smiths are currently in a resource war with a nearby settlement perched on an opposing peak within this mountain range. Skirmishes among the peaks are frequent and descents into the badlands below to harvest materials commonly see one war band following another- making getting there and coming home with supplies a dangerous prospect. Peace here, through a negotiated settlement or the destruction of the enemy will allow Ajax and his people the breathing room they need to better off resources up for the rebuilding of Vari on the other side of the gate.
9:02 AM
There is some debate among the smiths of disguises will be needed, though there is concern on seeing you that the enemy will know that the gate has been opened.
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 4/25/2022 9:40 AM
Konya bounces on the balls of her feet, a little giddy. This is serious! She banishes this thought for later, committed to thoroughly enjoying getting set up with her fancy dressdisguise. Hope it's better than that grimy old cleanser uniform.
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/25/2022 2:17 PM
Parsnips begins the process of loosening the straps and bolts on his armor, removing items piece by piece and making a small pile for the Smiths to alter. "Won't be my first time doing this sort of thing, getting all gussied up to walk into enemy territory." He gives a nervous chuckle. "It never really gets easier. If that part of you screaming 'THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA' ever shuts up, it's time to retire. That voice in your head'll keep you alive. Anyway, I think we've got a pretty good strategy here. Everyone here has an incentive to stop the constant warfare."
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Mobius watch his teammates for a while, then remembers he paid good money (and a piece of his soul) for his cybernetics. And in an instant he looks like any scrapper they've seen on their way there.
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You are taken to something of a gear up room where the Scrap Smiths begin working to try to disguise you as more mechanical beings. Your flesh need not be stripped away, but careful applications of interesting pieces of ultimately faux technology are grafted on with surgical glue, or are simply just fastened in less visible places wherever possible. They promise when you return they will be able to get this all off.
7:17 AM
7:17 AM
You're disguised as more humanoid looking mechanical frames , though are able to make your own flourishes to it, so Konya is able to make the alternations she wishes especially.
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 4/26/2022 7:37 AM
(Yes! ❤️)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/26/2022 8:29 AM
In succession, Parsnips gives each of his arms and legs a quick shake, testing the sturdiness of the disguise. Seeing it all stay in place, he cracks his knuckles and checks out the others. "Wow! This is pretty impressive. Looking pretty spiffy there, Konya."
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(so the hologram didn't cut it and he won't need it? or just the hologram or even both?)
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(The hologram will not cut it)
12:37 PM
(Ajax is insisting on this method for a reason )
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/26/2022 1:51 PM
"Anything we need to sort out before we hit the road?"
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 4/26/2022 2:16 PM
"Hold up, need more spikes..." Konya sticks her tongue between her teeth and she tinkers with her suit. "Alright, there. What do you think, will it blow our cover?"
2:17 PM
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/26/2022 8:01 PM
“Bound to turn some heads, at least. Should we hit the road, then?”
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Mobius, despite being a little frustrated his holograms won't cut it, is happy that their disguise contemplate his unique mosk physiology
1:06 AM
(thinking about something like this, specially because of the legs. but overall crustacean vibes feels right)
1:07 AM
After moving around a little, getting used to the shift to his center of gravity and balance, Mobius gives them a quite but energetic thumbs up
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 4/27/2022 3:58 AM
"Before we go..." she turns to Ajax. "Anything you can tell us about the clan that would help? Customs, greetings, signs of respect? Anything that'll smooth over our, probably, unwanted presence?"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/27/2022 6:16 AM
“Oh, and if there’s some sort of flag or signal for truce or parlay, that would be helpful too”
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"I've sent them a signal letting them know you're coming, if they fire its a deliberate act of betrayal and nothing you can signal or sign yourself is going to prevent them from shooting. A gift of machine oil will be traveling with you on a floater ruck, and we've arranged as much as possible beforehand so there shouldn't be any real misunderstandings. We want peace, we're prepared to commit resources to do it, but if there are other more common sense arrangements you think you can make we'll abide by. You've for a fresh perspective in all this. succeed where we have not"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/27/2022 8:27 AM
"Thank you. That is much appreciated. We'll do everything in our power to see the conflict ended."
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"I have a vehicle that can bring you down to the badlands floor, and will bring you to the gate of the enemy fortifications, from there they will let you in. I wish you the best of luck. Peace here means we can help you, and both our societies may one day prosper"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/28/2022 8:11 AM
When the vehicle arrives, Parsnips slides into a passenger seat, careful not to disturb the elements of his disguise. "Roomier than I would have expected."
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The robotic driver is behind a sealed compartment to prevent tampering, by either yourself or anyone not of Ajax's group who might interact with it. You see nothing else of note in here for the moment aside from some refreshments set aside for you. The wheeled mountain exploration vehicle is well armored, but unarmed from what you can tell- or its weapons are cunningly hidden.
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 4/28/2022 1:56 PM
Konya partakes of the refreshments munching happily and hunching a little every time the vehicle bounces so her spikes don't get impaled in the roof. Maybe should've gone easy on the spikes. She shrugs, "So I'm guessing we're going to be playing this by ear a fair bit, but we should probably agree on some sort of unified opening arguments. Are we going to go hard on the weather machines angle? That's not a new issue so I doubt we'll be making any arguments that haven't already been made." (edited)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/28/2022 3:23 PM
“I think what we’re offering here is permanent stability, instead of temporary truces long enough to fix the machines”
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 4/29/2022 1:59 PM
"Alright. If they don't shoot us outright then I guess they're at least open to the idea."
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The vehicle hisses as Mobius climbs aboard and the air brakes begin venting their stored pressure. The wheels begin moving and the armored staff truck moves out of the stronghold and down the mountain path outside
3:08 PM
(I can skip ahead if we are good on prep. If we want to keep working out our methods here we can)
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After reflecting for several minutes. Mobius finally opens his now mechanical mouth "I don't think they'll buy any promise of everlasting peace. Doesn't matter how many layers of metal, polymers and disguise there is between us and them, I can feel their apathy, hopelessness and cynicism on the topics of peace and cooperation."
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 4/30/2022 12:23 PM
“That’s why this will be a negotiation, not a lecture. The Smiths are willing to put resources behind an alliance. We’re not just talking about the absence of fighting, but a commitment from both camps to build something together, that everyone has an equal stake in. That sounds like it’ll be a new offer.”
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At the bottom of the canyon between the mountains someone fires a flare into the sky. The ball of plasma is white, signaling you are safe to approach and there is a crackle as someone tries to patch into the communications suite inside the vehicle.
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/1/2022 3:34 PM
Muttering a curse under his breath, Parsnips adjusts the comms receiver, trying to make the incoming message more clear
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)program /int)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/2/2022 6:32 AM
!roll 2d6
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Dice Maiden BOT 5/2/2022 6:32 AM
Parsnips Jackall Roll: [6, 1] Result: 7
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You are able to cut out enough of the interference to get a message out, and hope from there they'll be able to find the channel you're broadcasting from yourself .
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/2/2022 7:57 AM
Konya stares at the comms receiver anxiously. Trying to break a bit of tension she adds, "At least they haven't shot us yet."
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/3/2022 8:31 AM
"maybe we can try sending out a broadcast message of our own?" Parsnips picks up the receiver. "This is the Scrap Smith diplomatic envoy. Are we clear to approach?"
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"Smith Envoy, this is valley guard, you are cleared to approach. We're required to ask if your vehicle is armed, if so, power down your weapons or otherwise make them safe before final approach. Failure to do so will have you fired on"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/3/2022 8:44 AM
Parsnips flips off the receiver. "Shit. Can anyone tell if this thing has a weapons system or not?"
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/3/2022 9:28 AM
Konya flails around looking for anything that might be a weapons system or controls and trying to recall if she saw any on the outside. “Surely Ajax wouldn’t have sent us in an armed vehicle.”
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/4/2022 8:49 AM
“I don’t remember seeing anything external when we got in, but I’m no expert.” Parsnips joins Konya in looking over the panels and controls for anything that might be a weapons system
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You can see a series of tubes that go through the ceiling where smoke and flare grenades could be loaded, but nothing resembling a gun.
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/4/2022 9:17 AM
Parsnips flips the receiver back on. "Valley Guard, this is Smith Envoy. Weapons are powered down. Beginning final approach."
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/4/2022 10:56 AM
Worried about being searched for weapons on arrival, but still wanting to protect herself and her comrades if necessary, Konya slips her knife from the lining of her armour. She holds it in both hands concentrating her will to transport it to the void. Come to think of it, I've no idea if there are psychics on this side of the gate, but best not draw any attention to myself by using unnecessary techniques. (Void pocket activated - 1/1 encumbrance Fade deactivated 2/3 effort remaining)
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At the bottom of the incline you can see three centaur battle robots and a bot wrangler making a patrol down on the dusty former riverbed that once ran through this clearing. The heavy cutters of the centaur bots power down upon scanning , showing the weapons on your own vehicle are not present or not active. *Smith Envoy, we're here to escort you to the top of the peak. Fall in formation with us and we'll have you home in time for dinner. Didn't think you guys would actually show?"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/5/2022 8:46 AM
As the car falls into formation with the escorts, Parsnips flips the receiver off for a moment, looking over the team “Alright, everyone, game faces!” Flipping the receiver back on, he leans forward slightly. “Wouldn’t miss it. This conversation is long overdue.”
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The winding trail brings you to the top of a large mountain where another dark metal castle has been carved into the landscape. You can see three large, fat bellied rockets aimed at the Scrap Smith's peak have been constructed on a triplicate launch rail, and are undergoing the fueling and loading process as white steam pours from the sides of the readying vehicles. The drawbridge to the inner keep is lowered and you can see an honor guard of ten soldiers has been drawn up to greet you and escort you in.
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/6/2022 7:37 AM
A nervous pang sets Parsnip's hairs on edge as he watches the fueling process. "Well, let's hope this conversation doesn't go off the rails." Exiting the vehicle, Parsnips makes his way over the drawbridge, saluting the honor guard in a show of respect.
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Behind the metal husk, Mobius' eyes go wide. Over their private comms channel: "what's our cover story again, are we saying we're diplomats, envoys from Scrap Smith?"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/6/2022 9:07 AM
"What cover story? We are a diplomatic envoy from the Scrap Smiths." Parsnips hopes that the gentle slap to the back of Mobius's head conveys the unspoken part. They can probably pick up our private signals.
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/6/2022 9:43 AM
Some mixed messages here, hope it's just an attempt at intimidation and is nothing sinister. She follows Parsnip's lead, saluting the honor guard, coming to a standstill slightly behind and to the side of him.
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“Welcome, Scrap Smith friends from the opposing peak. Please allow us to escort you inside to the meeting. Before we do so, we will of course need to scan for weapons”
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/7/2022 10:33 AM
Parsnips nods agreeably, slowly unslinging his rifle and placing it in the car before spreading his arms out to show he has nothing else on him
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Mobius pulls himself together, inside his mind he admits how those rockets are indeed freaking him out a bit. And of course he complies, leaving pistol and knifes behind
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/7/2022 1:21 PM
Konya also leaves her pack in the car, and joins the queue to be scanned.
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(I know Kila has her void pocket. Is anyone sneaking anything ? I’m not going to bother rolling checks if we are complying )
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/7/2022 5:12 PM
(Nothing sneaky for me)
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(I don’t know how to interpret that thumbs up as far as sneaking anything or not. I’m going to keep the scene going with the assumption Mobius is complying )
7:36 AM
The scan goes on for a few moments as various beams and buzzes strike the exterior of your bodies and satisfied you’re unarmed, you’re allowed inside the castle where you can see the metal decking has been scrubbed entirely clean likely for the purposes of this visit. Winding corridors have you passing servant bots on errands , cyborg soldiers , and finally you’re brought to the brass doors of a large chamber where the delegation you are to meet us waiting. They’ve been mechanically replaced or augmented to the point where you cannot tell if they’re a man or woman or even human anymore , but there are three of them and you’re invited to sit opposite them on a round table.
7:37 AM
The chairs are a stamped metal, inlaid with the symbol of clan Ajax, and the table itself looks to also have been specially commissioned for the event , devoid of decoration or emblems so all here would feel that they are on equal ground
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/8/2022 1:49 PM
Parsnips appreciatingly runs his fingers along the table, waiting for a signal from their hosts before taking a seat. "Before we get started, I want to thank you for agreeing to meet with us, and for the hospitality shown so far. We have much to discuss, and while I certainly don't expect to heal such long-standing divisions in one meeting, the show of good faith you've made thus far shows us that you're as ready as we are to have a real conversation here."
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(yup) Mobius tags along, still nervous about the rockets, but now holding his composure
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"Please sit, and come to this table in good faith. "
7:22 AM
They make no mention of the preparations taking place outside, and do not seem to be bothered by much of anything.
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/9/2022 7:57 AM
“Ok, then.” Parsnips nods and takes a seat. “Let’s start with the elephant in the room. Those rockets are pointed right at us, of course that’s where I’d expect them to be pointed. But it seems that they’re being prepared to launch, right in full view of us. That would certainly put a damper on good faith negotiations.”
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"Those rockets are for cloud seeding. You're welcome to inspect the mechanics of them yourselves. We are hoping to encourage rain over the valley floor, possibly to get the river that used to be there flowing again. If we can maintain it, we hoped to use the current for some additional power generation, and food cultivation closer to home. Water is also something we can pour into our reactors, providing clean energy for those of us who do not need to eat"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/9/2022 1:53 PM
"I think we'd love to see those mechanics. If we can verify that it isn't a weapon, we can send a message back to our people letting them know not to be alarmed or to take countermeasures. This project sounds important, and one that could potentially benefit us as well. Doing that sort of work, together, is actually what we've come to discuss. We think that the constant fighting, broken only by temporary truce to fix the machines that keep us alive, and then back to fighting is...tiresome. Working together, we think that we can turn this place into something new. Rather than killing each other over scraps, we can share in a bounty that keeps both of our peoples not just surviving, but thriving. We are prepared to discuss terms and invest resources in this new future. If you'll let us, we can even start by helping you get that river flowing."
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/9/2022 2:36 PM
Konya nods, “Reassuring our people about the rockets would go a long way to bridging that gap as well.” (I’m leaving most of the talking to you and just chipping in some supporting statements since you have all the talk skills)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/9/2022 2:37 PM
(please jump in with whatever you've got. I don't want to hog all the fun)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/9/2022 2:38 PM
(I’m sure there’s fun to be had later 😉)
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"Perhaps to set the tone for the rest of this negotiation you would like to inspect the mechanics of the rockets first?"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/9/2022 3:35 PM
"We'd appreciate that, thank you"
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Mobius holds a deep sigh from relief, as the situation wasn't a ticking bomb aimed at their allies but rather a real shot at a brighter future (pun intended) Instead, he simply nods and waits for their host to guide them
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(notive/wis, everyone can make this check)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/10/2022 7:45 AM
!roll 2d6 + 1
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Dice Maiden BOT 5/10/2022 7:45 AM
Parsnips Jackall Roll: [6, 5] Result: 12
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/10/2022 7:59 AM
!roll 2d6
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Dice Maiden BOT 5/10/2022 7:59 AM
Kila Stosk | Konya Roll: [5, 3] Result: 8
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You're taken outside and are shown the interior of the rockets on their rusting launch rails, and from what you can tell inside, and by the behavior of the technicians it looks like some kind of clouded gas/water blend is being loaded into the rockets where the warhead would normally be. None of you are chemists, or have a scientific background, but collectively you've armed enough missiles in your life to know what a weaponized payload would look like, and this does not seem to be anything more than what the diplomats inside insisted they are.
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/10/2022 12:41 PM
Parsnips raises his compad. "You don't mind if I snap a few pictures of this setup, so I can let my people back home know not to be alarmed when they see a trio of rockets bearing toward them?"
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They give an affirmative gesture, signifying they're alright with you doing so in order to prevent any kind of ordinance from being fired back this way after a launch.
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/10/2022 2:52 PM
Parsnips snaps several pictures of the setup and innards of the rockets and sends them with an accompanying message to the Smiths, detailing what they’ve been told so far about the purpose of the launch. He ends the message with a suggestion not to intercept or retaliate when the rockets are launched
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/10/2022 3:15 PM
As Parsnips does his thing Konya studies the launchers. She turns to their hosts, “When do you expect the preliminary results for this? I’d be very interested to hear them. This project is something we could be committing resources to in the name of cooperation and peace.”
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"The seeding was expected to take place tomorrow, after the conclusion of talks. We did not want to have any misunderstandings taking place while potential negotiations were underway. This brings us to the reason for your visit. Though we are not currently belligerents, we do compete with the Scrap Smiths, and each side has the ability to make resource collection incredibly difficult for the other. A negotiated settlement is needed, to keep us from pulling this valley apart. We are interested in peace, but will not agree to terms that do not favor a sustainable way of life"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/11/2022 10:55 AM
"I am quite glad to hear you use that word, sustainability. That's exactly why we're here. I think you'll agree, the way we're currently doing things isn't sustainable. If we keep down this path, even if one side wins out, their prize will be a burnt out husk no longer suited for life. We could instead work together, sharing what we have equitably. To each according to need, by each according to ability (sorry, had to!). By sharing not just in our work but in our knowledge, I think we can transform this valley into a place where we can share not just in having our basic needs met, but even share in prosperity and joy. That's our vision, anyway. And I know that this is just a whole lot of talking, so let us show you we mean it by helping you make this current project successful."
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(If it makes this easier to track for you guys, I can make a list of things they want and things things they won't compromise on for both sides, Ajax would have given you some terms I just didn't write something out before hand)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/11/2022 12:24 PM
(Makes sense, thanks)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/11/2022 12:26 PM
(Perfect)
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Scrap Smiths want: Stable green zone in north desert Dominant share of fertile ground (over 55%) Access to rocket seeding technologies, or chemical formula of the cloud seeding solution in the warheads joint access to any power generation attempts in the valley, and equal share in maintaining the river Clan Ezeram Dominant share of fertile ground (over 55%) Access to cybernetic technologies, namely brain transfer to mechanical frames Private holding of power generation technologies, but willingness to share surplus power with Scrap Smiths.
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/11/2022 3:33 PM
Parsnips reads over the initial positions of both camps, cracking his knuckles and rolling his wrists in loose circles. "Ok, let's start with the easy ones and move into where there's likely to be more tension. 1. For starters, you want our brain transfer tech. You can have it in exchange for your rocket seeding technology. 2. We want to develop and maintain a stable green zone in the north. Help us with that, and we can not only share in the bounty it produces, but we'll also provide assistance in the river project." Parsnips pauses, smirking a little to himself before continuing. This all feels so very familiar, despite the surroundings. "Now these next pieces are going to be a little stickier. 1. We both want majority holdings in fertile ground, so how about this. We get 60% of existing areas, you get 65% of anything developed or discovered hereafter. And we agree to cooperate and assist to the highest degree possible in developing new areas. 2. If you'll agree to joint holding of power generation, we'll agree to take the lion's share of responsibility for defense and upkeep. I'm going to throw in one more piece here, that neither side has talked about. A mutual defense and aid agreement. We'll agree to come to each others defense when attacked, and provide resources as needed. We're agreeing to things here that give each of us a vested interest in seeing the other make out well, so let's make it official." (editted to fix fat-finger early send) (edited)
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"I'd like a guarantee that the full weight and breath of the resources we have will be used for mutual defense, and that this clause is only triggered in a defensive war. We don't want the Scrap Smiths poking the wrong clans out on the badlands and then now we're involved in a war we did not start"
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(hey the genie is already out of the bottle, but I think the brain tech is worth a lot more than a chem mix for seeding clouds (we have that today))
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/12/2022 9:46 AM
(I think they’re both equally valuable to survival on this world. Maybe cloud seeding a little more so. You’d probably be right if we were on the other side of the gate but here I reckon that’s a fair swap)
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(we can negotiate any point we want to, since this is a text based format people are going to have ideas at different times)
9:47 AM
(I just pointed out a problem they had with the counter proposal)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun]
(I think they’re both equally valuable to survival on this world. Maybe cloud seeding a little more so. You’d probably be right if we were on the other side of the gate but here I reckon that’s a fair swap)
Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/12/2022 9:50 AM
(that's what I was thinking. Can't apply IRL tech situations here. We're on a barren wasteland planet where the only way to have life sustaining ecosystems is to engineer it, but body amplification tech is pretty advanced. They're probably closer to developing brain tech than we are to cloud seeding. But like Neko said, we're still negotiating so if there's something else you think we can get, go for it. I'll hold off on responding to their counter until everyone has chimed in)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/12/2022 9:59 AM
(As for the counter I think that was implied but it’s a useful thing to have formally written to protect both sides. I’d also hope there’d be others who look at the clans working together and want to join. With that ultimate goal in mind -though it’s really out of reach today - it might also be useful to have some formal provision for negotiating with other clans. Eg automatic access to the brain transfer and cloud seeding tech. Don’t want to get too complicated just want it to be clear this isn’t just about clans Ajax and Ezeram) *in the long-term (edited to add this) (edited)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/12/2022 10:04 AM
(so like, make this a formal alliance with a built in mechanism for other tribes to join? I love it! I don't have to or want to be the only one talking. You should make that proposal IC)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/12/2022 10:09 AM
(Will do once I have fed myself! And cat…)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/12/2022 3:03 PM
"That was implied, but I think you're right. It would do both sides a service to ensure they're protected against that kind of thing explicitly." She hums for a moment, "I think it's also worth stating that our ultimate goal is to establish a lasting peace for the entire region. We'd hope that other clans will see us flourish and be willing to negotiate peace in the same way. I'd like to add some provisions for allowing others to join under similar terms; an exchange of technology, sharing of resources and holdings, and a mutual defense pact. Something of a formal alliance. We won't be able to hash out all the details in one meeting, but I hope you'd be receptive to the idea and willing to put in some initial provisions."
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Last but not least, despite how both technologies are proportionally important, I think we can all agree mind upload requires a lot more specialized hardware than cloud seeding. Instead just transferring specs and blueprints, and have you scratching your still biological brains for months, we can do better to our future new allies. In exchange for shared usage of our own hardware, we'd like to ask for access to your manufacturing facilities, so we may also streamline our own weather rockets and defensible positions we're agreeing to manning. (edited)
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"No, this is our way of contributing to the alliance. If the terms are unacceptable, then do not accept them. That is asking for far too much"
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/16/2022 7:52 AM
(Sorry if everyone else is clear but is that no to provisions for an open alliance as well or just the manufacturing/hardware proposal?)
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(they were just talking about the tech exchange. They're not asking for the brain transfer tech, just that service for their own people, so they're not going to give up their only leverage in that process)
8:57 AM
(I don't think on paper any of them would have an objection to a broader alliance, but they'd need to know the terms they'd agree to be bound by)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/16/2022 9:00 AM
(ty, just wanted to be clear what had/hadn't been agreed yet)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/16/2022 9:07 AM
(Oh, shit! Totally forgot that we already have a template for alliances, from Sanjaru. Lemme dig up the old post for that, we can probably recycle with a little editing) (edited)
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"Apologies, I believe I misunderstood the meaning of what was on the table. The contributions you offer are generous and more than enough. About the alliance terms, we came prepared with a boilerplate from which we're ready to propose." (edited)
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“By all means. Please proceed with your proposal. “
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/18/2022 5:34 AM
Parsnips begins hammering out a message on his compad. A few minutes later, the room resonates with dings and buzzes. 1. Full, good-faith participation in all decision-making processes of the Alliance Council, including but not limited to the establishment of by-laws; and 2. Adherence to and compliance with all decisions made by said council; and 3. All disputes that arise between membership bodies will be resolved in Council session. No Alliance membership body shall ever raise arms against another; and 4. As the primary purpose of the Alliance is mutual aid, all Alliance membership bodies agree to provide any aid and/or counsel to any other membership body as needed and to the greatest extent possible; and 5. An attack on any Alliance membership body shall be treated as an attack on the Alliance as a whole.
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"Who makes up the council? Will we be equally represented? and is there is way that these representatives are going to be appointed to the group? "
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/18/2022 7:45 AM
(Shit! I knew I missed a piece) “Equal representation of all member tribes. One representative each. How they choose their representative is their business.”
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"And there is no mandate that the current heads of state need to step down before inclusion in such an alliance?"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/18/2022 8:40 AM
“If they’re willing to accept these terms, no aggression, good faith participation in council affairs, adherence to council decisions, I don’t see a reason to depose current tribal leaders”
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"I think our clan can agree to these terms. Of course there will be a trial period while we see if both sides are able to adhere to them, but in principle we have no reason to reject the offer on the table"
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/18/2022 2:21 PM
(Is the council majority or unanimous? Not sure if I missed that somewhere and my brain is rejecting what it thinks is a 'wall of text', sorry)
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(I do not see it specified, I missed that as well)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/18/2022 2:53 PM
"This is great progress. We should probably establish the proceedings for council decisions as well, namely whether the council should require a majority or unanimous votes. Of course, with only two clans this is a moot point, but as others join it will be important. My proposal would be a majority, with so many opposing viewpoints a unanimous system would like end in a stalemate much of the time. I'd also be happy to see some of the more important or potentially volatile decisions require a two-thirds majority to pass."
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(Talk/cha )
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/19/2022 9:23 AM
(Oh no)
9:24 AM
!roll 2d6 -1
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Dice Maiden BOT 5/19/2022 9:24 AM
Kila Stosk | Konya Roll: [4, 3] Result: 6
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"This seems to be a fair compromise since each group only is appointing one representative, and the two thirds will no longer matter once someone else is inducted into this alliance. currently. we would ask that some effort is made to find a neutral arbiter for tiebreaking purposes until others can be brought in, from then we will be able to handle this entirely on our own"
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/19/2022 4:16 PM
Konya nods as she thinks, "That makes sense. We can reach out to the other clans to find someone willing. It might also convince some to join sooner so the arbiter isn't required. If you draw up a list of your preferred clans for the job, we'll do the same and figure out someone acceptable to both sides."
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/20/2022 6:54 AM
Parsnips nods in agreement. “Definitely. Could help us expand the alliance.”
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"We have no relations with many outside our mountain range. Sorry, if the Scrap Smiths have any of this data, you will of course share it with us" The diplpmat says, probing to see if the Smiths do have any data and if you will share it.
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/20/2022 3:14 PM
(Do we have anything other than knowing about the gate? Probably better to keep shtum about the gate of course - it’ll be up to Ajax how to break that one.)
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(They still think you’re part of the scrap smiths , and these folks may know of the gate as a rumor but you’re proof it’s not if they learn who you actually are )
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/20/2022 5:57 PM
(Definitely not telling them). “To be honest, no great options come immediately to mind, but we’ll talk to the big man and let you know. Otherwise, we’ll have to go recruiting”
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"Others will come, especially as the lack of fighting between us means more resources for expansion and a better quality of life for our people"
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"Yes!"
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/22/2022 5:49 PM
Parsnips smiles broadly. “Our thoughts, precisely. Together we can end the pointless bloodshed”
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(I think we've got enough for an initial truce, though there might be more work to do later)
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Parsnips Jackall | Ian Holt 5/23/2022 9:19 AM
(Agreed. I don’t think there’s anything left for us to do in this immediate setting)
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Kila Stosk | Konya [Nurrun] 5/23/2022 5:07 PM
Konya smiles underneath her suit. "Thank you for hosting us, and taking the time to talk. I think we've achieved a lot in a short amount of time, and we look forward to seeing how the trial pans out. We'll be in touch regarding transfers of tech and other details of our agreement." She waits politely for their hosts to stand and end the meeting, before joining suit.
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(3xp , 5000 credits)
7:14 AM
(for now, we have a budding alliance here, but there will be more to do in the future)
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